Work-Life Integration for Women

Professional women often face challenging task of balancing family responsibilities with career aspirations. 

Many have put a lot of pressure on themselves to excel in both areas. The responsibility to be efficient in both the roles seems daunting and often leads to burnout. But with the correct mindset, approach, and support, it is achievable. 

In this episode of 9 to 5 Wellness, CJ Bachmann CEO of SEO 1 Digital shares how to adopt the positive mindset to integrate work and life. A few key takeaways from this episode are…. 

🌟 Obstacles women face in achieving work life integration.

🌟 Asking for help and delegating tasks.

🌟 Leveraging AI-powered tools in areas like time management, mental load reduction, and personalized wellness

🌟 Unique challenges working mothers face when it comes to marketing their businesses effectively?

🌟 Building a community as a busy working mom and entrepreneur. 

CJ Bachmann, CEO of 1SEO Digital Agency, is a successful digital marketing leader with over two decades of experience who has won numerous industry awards and is an expert on female leadership, challenging the status quo and promoting resilience, empathy, and skill in the workplace. You can learn more about CJ Bachmann at

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https://www.facebook.com/cjbachmann157

https://twitter.com/cjbachmann1seo

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjbachmann/


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Transcript

 Welcome to the nine to five wellness podcast,  a show about corporate wellness solutions with innovators and forward thinking leaders who are at the forefront of the workplace wellness movement.  I'm your host Ayesha Tahir. 

 Hello and welcome to nine to five wellness show. Today on the show, we are going to talk about work life integration for women  and the struggle for work life balance comes at as a no surprise for many. Working women. And honestly, it should apply to almost everyone working full time who has a family.

But research shows that working moms are more likely than their counterparts to assume. More responsibilities at home. This means that the more women assume like multiple roles outside of their jobs while being expected to maintain the same efficiency as their male counterparts.  I wanted to highlight how we can find some solutions for working moms and just professional women in general   to balance both the sides of their lives, you know, their family and work.

And for that, I have a very special guest with me today.  C. J. Baca. She's the CEO of one SEO digital agency, which is a successful digital marketing company as a leader of over like two decades with the with marketing experience. She's highly decorated industry expert. She champions female leadership challenges the status quo and fosters resilience, empathy and skill in the workplace.

Welcome CJ. 

Thank you so much, Aisha. I am so happy to be here. I get I always get really excited about this topic. So I'm very happy to be here. 

 That's awesome. Yeah, this is one of my favorite topics to as a mom, because, , we struggle. There are a lot of times professional women struggle because we are often adored for wearing many hats, like working full time jobs while managing our homes.

spouses, kids simultaneously.  And I know that with the right approach and mindset, it's absolutely possible to find a harmonious balance. So that's what I want to talk about. And I know there's nobody better than you to talk about this.  My first question is  what obstacles do women face in achieving?

Work life integration. 

Yeah. So I love the fact that you're using the work life integration, because as we talked about before, I don't think a true balance exists, nor do I think it's something we should be striving for. Instead, I think we should be striving for that integration. But like you said, women do face a lot of obstacles and it's one because we are multitaskers by nature, right?

And if you really think about it and you and I were recently at an event and we got to hear a researcher, I'm not a researcher. So everything I talk about, everything I write about comes from my experiences, what I, you know, and what I'm seeing. With my team, what I experience and what I've gone through.

But research says that women, we get burnt out and we get overwhelmed with things that are not related to our home tasks. So we get burnout at work. Men get burnout at home, right? Because, you know, ideally for, you know, centuries it was, you know, women had one role in the, in the home and men had one.

outside of the house and So  now it's more importan finding that balance. And  women have to do it. We f  that multitasking. So we'v stop multitasking, but sto for everyone and really f  of that integration. What as a mother? What do I ne a professional working in schedule? And how can I m Both of those more smoothly.

And what can I delegate in order to be able to focus where my focus needs to be?  

Yes, just focusing on the the tasks that are really important to you. That's what I'm hearing. And I understand that that would take like prioritization, right? So you're going to create priorities for yourself. in your professional life and in your personal life as well.

And then delegate. I want to touch upon the delegation a little bit more because I think women struggle with that. Like we, it's, it's hard to ask for help. And I personally struggle with that.  I've gotten better over time, but there are still times when I struggle with that. So how can we set healthy boundaries?

And I, I think the first thing about setting that healthy boundary is, is realizing that it's okay. Not to do it all. And I think that that's where we struggle. It's, it's like you said, we do ha we hesitate to ask for help. And part of the reason is is because we look at it as if we can't do it by ourselves, we've kind of failed in a way.

Instead we have to look at delegation as not only a means to help us be able to accomplish more, but also as a way to build up the people around us. So I think taking that frame framework right and also being able to identify what are the things that I'm really good at. What, what am I really good at and what do I really like to do, and what are the things that maybe I struggle at that someone else could help with?

And then being able to say no to things that we don't need to. So I tell stories all the time about me as a parent, and it took me a really long time to realize who I was as a parent. And unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, I'm not the Betty Crocker mom. Right? I'm not going to.

Bring all the baked goods to the classroom. I'm not going to be the homeroom parent, things like that. And it's not because I'm not capable of it. It's because I have to prioritize in life. And what's more important to me is my children being able to see that I'm paving the road to success, not only for myself, but for them and being able to being able to say, it's okay that I'm not that parent.

So I think in order to prioritize, we first have to be willing to let a few things go.  I seen him one of the sessions where you and I met, I did the visioning exercise where I was trying to help people kind of understand where my mindset came from. And I went to the grocery store, loaded up the trunk. I get to the house.

I load up both arms and I'm trying to like walk into my house and I have to open the door with my foot. That's how full my arms are. And I opened the door to my son, my teenage son, just sitting there. I could have text him. I could have asked him to, you know, meet me outside. I could have had him bring the groceries in while I put them away.

But for some reason I didn't choose that and that's because of the way I was wired to just, I can do it so let me do it. And instead you have to make that shift to be able to say, you know what, I'm going to send a message when I'm almost home so that someone's waiting in that driveway to help unload the groceries because it's much more efficient for them to bring them in and me put them away and then move on about our day.

That's a simple example. But I think what holds us back is we're not, we're not willing to let go of something. And until you identify what you're really good at and what you're not so good at, you're going to have a hard time finding that balance.  

 I love the example of, , bring the groceries home and your arms being full and you're literally like kicking the door open with your foot. 

I tended to do that too for a very long time because that's all I saw. Like my mom did. Everything at home. That was all that was,  I was around  I just didn't know any other way. So there there's this expectation that's already been set or we call it like limited beliefs that you have in your head, 

 you were supposed to do everything. But  if we just turn it around and say, Oh, but we are setting an example for our kids, right? Showing them that you as a  wonderful marketing leader that you are, you're paving the way for your kids. To see that, you know, you're successful there.

There is a life outside home for you you're a mom, but you're also the CEO of a one SEO digital when you have responsibilities for that. And I feel the same way. I don't end up at every soccer or track practice of my kids. But I'm okay with that. And a lot of people ask me, Oh, but don't you feel like guilty for missing out?

And I say all the time, no,  because I'm setting an example for my kids to be leaders for future 

of what's important and where priorities set. And you brought up a good point. And I think that this is the, at the core. So right now there's this massive transition happening. In the world. And there's always some sort of transition, but we're really trying to define or undefine those gender-based roles.

And what one of the things that I'm seeing is there, like there's a big push for women to get back in traditional women roles. And this initiative I'm seeing on Tik Tok, I think it's called like trad wife, right? And there's this group of, you know, women that are pushing women to get back into traditional roles because mentally, right?

It's supposed to be more conducive because we're wired to do one or the other and us trying to do it all is part of what has caused so much stress, anxiety, you know, depression and all of these different things that we're experiencing. So if we can take the opportunity to really define who we are as an individual.

what we want out of out o plan to get there and be  fine. You were raised in you saw, like you said, y everything. I was raised my, my step mom, she pret the traditional things. B oldest and I was raised a So I welded trailers. I, you know, took care of our hunting dogs. I worked on my dad's fencing business, you know, during the summers.

So I didn't have any limitations in my head when I got into the workforce. So I felt like kind of a force to be reckoned with. I'm like, what do you mean I'm supposed to have, you know, they're supposed to be a gender bias. It didn't, I was in my twenties before I really truly recognized it. Right. And then it's like, Oh my God, I'm being treated differently because I'm a female.

I'm not getting the same amount of sales as my male counterparts. Right. What do I need to do to change it? But you know, and that's it's about defining what careers are to us. I have a big gap with my Children. So my 21 year old son, who's 21 years now, when I decided to get into the business that I'm in now, I had a conversation with him when he was six or seven.

It's like, listen, I can't make every game. I'm not gonna be able to do this. I'm not gonna be able to do this, but this is why I'm doing it. Now with my daughter, the conversations are slightly different because I've learned so much and I've grown up so much and it's more important for her to be able to see my ability to turn off work when I need to turn it off, turn on family time when I need to turn it on and understand the difference between the two.

So we have conversations where it's like, okay, honey, we're at swim practice. Mommy has to do some work. I'm going to do this work while you're practicing so that tonight when we get home. We can spend time together or we can watch a TV show. And I think that that's really important because I'm teaching her at a young age that I'm prioritizing based on what's best for my life and for her life.

Exactly. That's a wonderful example that, , you are making it clear to your kids, also educating them and setting an example for them that you can do both. And there would be times where you will have to juggle both the responsibilities and that's okay, because then you get to spend time at night at home together.

 With the hybrid work environment, the lines between office and home have really become,  blurred for a lot of people.  women. And on one han a lot of flexibility to s the example. And it's a l previous generations did mom didn't have it. U However, for working moms, this flexibility often comes with added complexity, like of juggling demands you know, at home and then deadlines at work and everything in between.

So are there any innovative solutions for time management, mental load reduction? Because we know, as you quoted, that women are at a higher risk of burnout.  If we can reduce that mental load, then women won't be exhausted. And how can they prioritize their own well being with innovative solutions?

What do you think? 

So I do have a couple of tech solutions before I get to that. I want to talk about the main solution and that is being being open. So whether you have a counterpart or not, The saying that it takes a village to raise a child is so true, and this is something that I had to learn, you know, the hard way is being able to ask for help, putting my child in that carpool or letting another parent bring my, you know, my child home from an event.

So, first and foremost, you really need to talk with your partner or the people that you can depend on to be able to develop some sort of schedule that builds in some flexibility that you need. So that's one thing and we don't do a good enough job of that, especially married women or women with partners.

Telling their counterpart, Hey, these are the things that I'm going to need for me. Because if we don't say it, the assumption is going to be, we got it because we've spent the, you know, the last couple of hundred years telling, you know, everybody else, Hey, we got this. It's okay. I'm super woman. I can't, you know, I can do it.

And then there are tech solutions and I'll give two very, very simple examples.  One thing that a lot of mothers, I will, I'll say mothers, but parents in general struggle with is time to. Feed their brains, educate themselves to keep building on their knowledge. It kind of goes to the wayside, right?

You build up the skillset, you got a job, you do your job and that's all you have time for. So I encourage people to think about using their time differently. So for example, I have a 40 minute commute every single day. For the most part, I'm listening to an audible or a podcast to feed my brain while I'm doing that commute.

It allows me to show up to work, ready to work on the business. I'm not thinking about what happened in the morning or my kids drop off or any of that stuff because I've been feeding my brain, getting myself in that right mental mode. The same thing in reverse. There are some days that work is tough you know, and it's hard and you had a rough day and nothing went right.

You don't want to take that home with you. So feed your brand on their way home. So whether that's listening to music or an uplifting, you know, podcast, if you're religious, listening to a sermon, anything that you can do that now takes your mind off of work and onto something that feeds your soul. So that's one example is just use your time more wisely.

The other thing is. There's so much technology out there. And you know, one of those things that's simple and we all experience this during covid, but it's something as simple as instacart and you know, the grocery example, right? You've got too much going on and especially if you're working at home, right?

It's five o'clock. Now you've got a clock out from work, go to the grocery store, come and start that cycle. Don't do that. You know, use instacart to be able to do that. And then with generative AI, you can use chat GPT to go in and basically say, this is what I have in my refrigerator. I need a meal plan for this week.

It will shoot out an entire meal plan. You know, this is som started doing to where, y calendar and everybody in fo  I'm not, it's, this is no you know, I'm not cooking  not a short order cook.  U I'm able to use that tech are planned for me. My gro instacart even has re  So if you don't even know what to cook, you find a recipe and you can order everything in one click for that recipe.

We've seen other solutions, you know, the, the foods that gets delivered to your house. You know, there's so many things that we can use that technology for. But that's, that's definitely two pieces that I would say. Use your time differently by, you know, using the technology that's available for you.

And then plan a little bit better in advance. for those ancillary things that just have to happen on a regular basis. Aside from that, women just need to do a, need to do a better job of asking for help, especially from our partners.  

We do. I think just clarifying each other's roles and, you know, as a parent is so important, but we kind of tend to not do it because we want to do everything ourselves.

Or there's also this perfectionist mindset  like, we, we think that we would do a better job then. Anybody else? 

That's another good point, too, is that we also have to let go of some of that perfectionist, right? I joke all the time because when I do laundry at the house I'm like nobody else can do laundry because nobody folds the towels of the way that I do just don't touch it Let me do it, right?

But then at, you know, at the same time, you know, when I'm sitting there and having to do that on a Sunday afternoon when, you know, I'm tired and I've been busy and all that kind of stuff, then there's almost a resentfulness. It's like, Jesus, I'm the only one that can do this. Well, I built that. I created that.

So being able to let go a little bit and be like, you know what? I don't care how the dishwasher is loaded as long as they're clean and they get put back on the shelf. That's cool, right? But we have to let go of that perfectionist mentality. And then I keep harping on it too, but traditional roles tell us that as a, as a female, as the mother in the household, that we are supposed to do the cooking.

We're supposed to do the laundry. We're supposed to do the cleaning. And we just continue to do that. But we also decided.  as a race that we're going to also take on the workforce, right? Well, we made that decision. So if we're taking on more, we have to let something go from this side, which means that our partners have to pick up some of that slack and they're capable.

We just have to ask.  

Right, right. Exactly. Exactly. The more I feel like I ask of my husband to do things and the more clear we both are, the easier it has gotten for me as an entrepreneur to actually give time to my business and still be there for my kids. You know, I feel fulfilled and I think that's the end goal for everyone that you want to feel fulfilled in your life as a mom or even just a wife.

And then. Also at work as an entrepreneur or leader or on your way to leadership. So I love the two AI powered or tech powered solutions that you mentioned. Instacart is my favorite too. I love the Instacart recipes and it's so true. Like you just hit click and everything drops in. It's so easy.

It has made like cooking home, cook, Or having home cooked meals so easy for us.  The second solution you gave, which was on the panel too, where we met is the AI powered, like meal plans, which I've been trying them out and the kids and I, we both love it. You just love those. So thank 

you for sharing that. 

It's just so simple. And that's what I tell people all the time. And I know we're not necessarily talking all about all about A. I. But there's just such a fear around it. So I am a such a big advocate for getting people to just use it in their personal lives to see what it can do for you. You know, and it's it's amazing.

I have written you know, contracts for it. for my son when he started, you know driving and, and having new responsibilities. I have used it you know, to produce four four or four plans for, you know, my five or four plans for my daughter. And I'm not an educator, right? But those are, you have the ability to just, it just streamlines things so much better.

, AI has a lot of power.  As you said, this particular topic and conversation is not geared towards it, but I would love to have you back and talk more about it because  AI is a tool that can help you. , we have to let go of the fear. Just like we're afraid to ask for help from human beings.

We are afraid to ask for help from technology too, right? So we have to let go of that too. So one of the questions I have for you as a marketing expert is  A lot of my community is of working moms who are entrepreneurs and they're trying to market their business effectively or they work in organizations where they're responsible for marketing their businesses effectively.

So any tips for working moms you know, to how to overcome the obstacles when it comes to marketing their businesses? 

Yeah, absolutely. And two things, one is, is tech related and one is not. The non tech related is you need to be out there. Communities are the biggest opportunities for growing your business.

It is surpassing pay per click, it's surpassing traditional referral methods. So getting into communities being part of chambers, women's groups, whatever it is, Is a huge way for entrepreneurs, not only to have support, have, you know, that village to really help them make those connections, but also being able to grow your business.

So make sure that, you know, as an entrepreneur, that you're finding time to get into those groups. And there are so many geared towards working women that they can work within your schedule. From the tech side of things, it's going to be, my, my tip is going to be embracing this artificial generative AI technology to.

Do things ahead of when they need to be done. So you know, social media posting and things like that is, is really, really huge right now, especially for these entrepreneur women that, you know, have these businesses that they're launching and that they're working. But it takes a lot of effort to sit down and plan out a calendar using AI.

You can actually go in, you can create your own bot that is geared towards just your business.  And then you can use that bot to plan out a month's worth of social posts, including the creative. And then if you happen to work on Google workspace in June, Google is launching vids which goes right into their drive.

So it's going to be the same as Google sheets and Google docs, but now it's going to allow you to create videos. So in a long long story short, here's what I recommend. Chat GPT is the easiest one for people to access. I would definitely use the paid version, so you get to version 4. 0. Once you're in chat GPT, there is a button on the left hand side that says explore GPTs.

Click on that. Then you will see in the top left hand corner or top right hand corner, one that says create GPT. That is where you can go in and create a custom agent just for you. You can ask it the question of what do you need to know for me? And it will give you a series of questions. You answer all of that.

Now that bot knows everything about you. You're telling it whether you like to use analogies, whether you like to use humor, whether you only talk professional what you prefer or what you like to do on, you know, on the side as your hobbies, different things like that. You feed it all that information.

Now it knows you, it knows your business. It knows your website. Then you go in and you say, I need to create a content calendar for the month of April. Give me an example of what would be some good topics. You go through that method. Once you agree on your topics, You ask it to create the ad copy along with the creative.

It spits it out. Now you have your calendar. If you're more tech savvy and you're using different platforms, you can go in and pre schedule with inside that platform. And now for the whole entire month, your social is posting all by itself and you don't have to worry about it until your next planning session.

. Mothers, you can do it at night after you put your kids to bed, feed that bot, get that information, and you're good to go.  That's a wonderful tip, and I didn't know about the Google Wiz coming out, but I'm now going to look forward to it and look into it too.

So, you mentioned a couple of times the importance of community.  The importance of women supporting women and building community. I feel like we are often told, like, that it takes a village, but we find ourselves without our village. And I know from experience myself, like, mentorship and peer support, You know, is strong, like stepping stone for success.

And what we see in research is that 75 percent of the executives have credited their mentors or someone another woman to just, you know, fall back on as playing a vital role in their career advancement. So how can women find this kind of support that is so essential to their success, especially early in their careers and also as entrepreneurs?

Yeah, well, first off, you have to get over the fear of networking networking, no matter, I don't care who you are. The nicest person, the most extroverted person, you know, has days where they're like, I just don't want to talk to people. Small talk is not easy for everyone. Small talk is really hard for me.

It's just not one of my, like, it's just not one of my fortes. But for women, Especially early on in their career, getting involved with something as simple as a local chamber or a virtual meetup group and going in with the intent that you're going to talk to people about who you are and what you do.

And the reason why is because you never know when a mentor is going to pop up, or when you're going to make a connection that is going to feed you somewhere down the line. So I think you have to get over the fear initially. And you can't look at networking as an ancillary, just kind of thing that you do when you have time for it.

It's not when you have time. It should be a critical part of what you do on a regular basis to grow your business. And if you change that mindset and you go into it with that, I'm going to talk to everybody in this room. I'm going to at least tell them who I am and what I do. You're going to start to meet people that can help you along the way.

So no different than us meeting at an event. Had I not gone to that event, had I not spoke to you when you walked up to me, we wouldn't be talking today. And I wouldn't have a powerhouse of a connection like you to help support other women when they tell me, hey, you know, where can I go to find out information that supports, you know, women in business?

That's, that's how it works. So I think looking at it as part of a critical task that needs to be done on a regular basis will help you build that community and gain that village.  I 

couldn't agree more. Networking is one of the links to success. And the more you do it, you start finding people who have your vibe.

And just like you said, like there is a mentor out there. You just have to go and find them. Right.  So yeah, putting that work in to find that mentor is important. And sometimes we as women just having that mindset that, you know, we don't need help. We don't need anybody, right? But just overcoming that and understanding like, no, go and network, find your community.

You can build your community. And, and I'm glad you mentioned the virtual communities too, because now there are so many virtual components of even in person communities. You can do it all from home. Yeah, that was a 

big, yeah, that was a big holdup for a lot of women. Is there like, Oh, well the networking is in the, you know, in the evenings, it's taking me away from this or that.

Well, first off, ask for help. Your partner can watch the kids or plan that meal or, you know, grab pizza like you can go to that event. It's okay. But then also, like you said, there are so many virtual ones. There are a ton of brunches there you know, breakfast card exchanges and things like that. So you can find something that works within your schedule.

It's just, it, it's critical. And if you don't get involved now, you're going to be hurting along the way. Like I said, it is one of the primary sources. For new demand lead generation. And if you're not in it, it takes a while to build that community. So get started right now.  

So true. I'm so glad that you mentioned it.

And yes, get started. Just go there. Get started. Take a small step. You don't have to, you know, belong to five networking associations in one go, but start somewhere for sure. And virtual is a very good option to start with. So C. J. Tell us about one SEO digital. How do you help? Other organizations. 

Yeah, so we are a full service digital marketing agency.

We are tech enabled, so we do a lot utilizing automation and AI  to be able to enhance our services, deliver things faster. We do everything from traditional SEO, PPC, website design and development. email marketing, content marketing, videography, photography, reputation management, the whole nine yards. We work primarily with home service clients, professional service clients, and health and wellness clients.

And our job is to help make those sparks in that connection, right? So our, you know, we deal with mostly with local service providers and our goal inevitably is to make as many sparks as possible that lead to a connection for you. You know, and that's, That that's who we are. And we do it through a variety of different products and services.

And we work with a variety of different size of clients, but all within those three segments.  

Wonderful. You have a full toolbox of marketing, digital marketing services. That's awesome. And I know you were covering the women in business leadership summit too, right? Yes.   I noticed that your camera, People were everywhere.

 I can vouch that it's a wonderful service to have. CJ, so you are a professional leader for over two decades. And I know that you speak on different topics, including AI marketing and just like what we talked about, like for women and burnout where can people find more? about you, find out more about you if they wanted to get in touch with you.

Yeah, absolutely. So if they are interested in learning more about what we do here at One SEO, they can visit any of our social channels or our website at www. oneseo. com. For myself personally as you had mentioned, I do have a blog called  shehandlesit. com. All of my information is there. I talk a lot about mindset.

So I cover everything from marketing to parenting. And I have fun with it. That's, you know, one of the things that I really enjoy is, you know, we, just because we're women doesn't mean we have to be perfect. You know, I, I say bad words. You know, I'm crazy. Even this morning I was explaining to the audience, you know, the type of, you know, person that I am.

And I'm like, you know, Hey, I'm not the Betty Crocker mom, but I am the mom. That's going to crank up Metallica in the car, right. On the way home from school and get everybody pumped and jazz. And I think it's just important, you know, as women that we know who we are. So those are the two places that you can find me.

And then obviously my social platforms they're all CJ Bachman. So you can find me there as well.  

That's awesome. I'm going to put all the links in the show notes of my podcast. And when I reposted on LinkedIn as well you are my kind of mom  playing Metallica, that's awesome. .

Thank you so much for coming. Coming on the show.  It was just so fun talking to you. And sharing each other's experiences as entrepreneurs and leaders in the industry,  how we handle family life and work life. So thank you.  And everybody, thank you for joining us.

We will see you next week. Bye. It was a pleasure. Bye Aisha.  

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